Read & Write Speed Issues - Help Please

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So I purchased a bare DroboPro FS and 4 3TB Western Digital hard drives.
The first thing I did was download the latest Drobo Dashboard ( version 1.1.1 ) from the website, after installing I proceeded to hook up the DroboPro FS to my network.
Using the Drobo Dashboard I updated to the most recent firmware before even inserting any of the hard drives.
I installed the hard drives and finished configuring the DroboPro FS through the Dashboard, so I am now all set up.

Here is where the problems occur…
I start copying folders over to the DroboPro FS, at first I was getting write speeds of 32-33 MB/s and read speeds of 57-58 MB/s .
After I finish copying a few folders ( checking read & write speeds after copying each folder) I end up with a total of about 10 GB loaded onto the DroboPro FS and my read speeds drop down to about 20 MB/s.
If I keep loading the DroboPro FS with data, say a total of 3 TB my read and write speeds drop down to about 4 MB/s.

This is my network setup.
DroboPro FS attached to a 10/100/1000 D-Link switch which is attached to a 10/100/1000 D-Link router and the computer used for testing is attached to the router, all using cat 6 cable.
I’ve ruled out the possibility that my network could be at fault by directly attaching the DroboPro FS to the computer using a different cat 6 cable, also tried a cat 5 cable just to be sure the cables were not at fault.

With the DroboPro FS directly attached to the computer I may have gained between 2-4MB/s…this brings me to a total of about 6-8MB/s transfer rate.
The computer initially used for testing is running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit operating system.
I tried resetting the TCP/IP networking stack since that had helped some users but it didn’t seem to make a difference.
So to rule out the computer as the problem I tested on another Windows 7 computer and got the same results.
To rule out the operating system I tested the DroboPro FS directly attached to an iMac, still same results yet!

The only suspects left to blame is the DroboPro FS it’s self or the hard drives…
I tested each hard drive individually with the DroboPro FS and using Western Digital’s Diagnostic software with the drives installed in a computer.
I also disabled to idle timer on each drive to prevent the drives from auto idling.
To rule out the drives all together I tested 2 1TB 7200 RPM Seagate drives inside the DroboPro FS… same problem as before.
So what’s left to blame, the DroboPro FS.

After communicating with Drobo support and performing numerous read & write benchmarks along with submitting logs over a 2 month period Drobo support sends me a Drobo B800fs, the business edition of the 8 bay Drobo FS models.
Well the Drobo B800fs is showing the same results as the DroboPro FS and it does not have any firmware updates available for it at the time of writing.

So I am looking to you Drobo users for support.
If I am able to achieve write speeds of around 55 MB/s and read speeds of around 60 MB/s while the drives are empty should I not be able to achieve close to these speeds with data on the drives, even if it’s just a small amount of data?

Do the Drobo units need to have all drive bays full of drives in order to maintain good (or what is good for Drobo) read and write speeds?

Am I overlooking anything?
Is this just expected behavior of a Drobo?

Sorry for the lengthy post however I felt I should include as much detail as possible as I have worked on this issue for the past couple months and I am ready to fix the problem or find another product.

Any comments or suggestions are welcome.

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I use two DroboproFS units, latest firmware and with 8 3TB WD Green drives in each. The performance of the units is very close and the average write speed for long files is around 20MB/s. Nothing really moves this much. There is no problem with the discs or network, it is just that the processor in the FS units is too underpowered for more. I have Jumbo frames set up.

As a frame of reference, I recently copied all the data from the two units to a 22 Bay Synology NAS on the same switch. Even reading the DroboPros was limited to 40MB/s so I set both DroboPro FS units reading to the Synology. That got write speeds of 80MB/s on the Synology so I added a third drive and the write speed of the Synology increased to 105MB/s.

Your units are performing as expected and is why I have relegated mine to be backup units. The DroboPro unit that I own also has 8 3TB drives in and connected via iSCSI will write at over 40MB/s and in many respects is Drobo’s best unit.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news if performance is important to you. I would not want you to continue looking for a problem and blaming yourself.

Ian

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I use two DroboproFS units, latest firmware and with 8 3TB WD Green drives in each. The performance of the units is very close and the average write speed for long files is around 20MB/s. Nothing really moves this much. There is no problem with the discs or network, it is just that the processor in the FS units is too underpowered for more. I have Jumbo frames set up.

As a frame of reference, I recently copied all the data from the two units to a 22 Bay Synology NAS on the same switch. Even reading the DroboPros was limited to 40MB/s so I set both DroboPro FS units reading to the Synology. That got write speeds of 80MB/s on the Synology so I added a third drive and the write speed of the Synology increased to 105MB/s.

Your units are performing as expected and is why I have relegated mine to be backup units. The DroboPro unit that I own also has 8 3TB drives in and connected via iSCSI will write at over 40MB/s and in many respects is Drobo’s best unit.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news if performance is important to you. I would not want you to continue looking for a problem and blaming yourself.

Ian
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Thanks for your response Ian.
I did some more testing by coping a 4 GB file to the DroboPro FS and then renamed and duplicated the file on the DroboPro FS until I had about 200 GBs of space used.
At this point read speeds where at about 10 MB/s, don’t recall what write speeds where however after letting the DroboPro FS sit idle and unplugged from the network for about 2-3 days most of the read and write speeds had returned back to normal.

So it seems the Drobos are performing some kind of maintenance when data is written to them and it just takes forever for it to complete.
If I was to copy all 3 TBs of data I have to the DroboPro FS I would image it would take at least 3 weeks for it would return to normal read and write speeds, this is too long for my liking.

I sold my Drobo 2 days ago and am now looking at getting either a Synology DS1511+ or a QNAP TS-809 Pro.
I think I am going to try the Synology DS1511+ due to the price difference however I do like the some of the apps the QNAP has and the faster CPU plus being able to recover data by booting to a CD would be nice if needed.

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I use two DroboproFS units, latest firmware and with 8 3TB WD Green drives in each. The performance of the units is very close and the average write speed for long files is around 20MB/s. Nothing really moves this much. There is no problem with the discs or network, it is just that the processor in the FS units is too underpowered for more. I have Jumbo frames set up.

As a frame of reference, I recently copied all the data from the two units to a 22 Bay Synology NAS on the same switch. Even reading the DroboPros was limited to 40MB/s so I set both DroboPro FS units reading to the Synology. That got write speeds of 80MB/s on the Synology so I added a third drive and the write speed of the Synology increased to 105MB/s.

Your units are performing as expected and is why I have relegated mine to be backup units. The DroboPro unit that I own also has 8 3TB drives in and connected via iSCSI will write at over 40MB/s and in many respects is Drobo’s best unit.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news if performance is important to you. I would not want you to continue looking for a problem and blaming yourself.

Ian
[/quote]

Thanks for your response Ian.
I did some more testing by coping a 4 GB file to the DroboPro FS and then renamed and duplicated the file on the DroboPro FS until I had about 200 GBs of space used.
At this point read speeds where at about 10 MB/s, don’t recall what write speeds where however after letting the DroboPro FS sit idle and unplugged from the network for about 2-3 days most of the read and write speeds had returned back to normal.

So it seems the Drobos are performing some kind of maintenance when data is written to them and it just takes forever for it to complete.
If I was to copy all 3 TBs of data I have to the DroboPro FS I would image it would take at least 3 weeks for it would return to normal read and write speeds, this is too long for my liking.

I sold my Drobo 2 days ago and am now looking at getting either a Synology DS1511+ or a QNAP TS-809 Pro.
I think I am going to try the Synology DS1511+ due to the price difference however I do like the some of the apps the QNAP has and the faster CPU plus being able to recover data by booting to a CD would be nice if needed.
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I could not be more delighted with my Synology RS2211 and the 12 bay expansion module. There is much more fan noise than the DroboProFS units bot for most activities they are 6 times faster. I now run a nightly job that copies a backup to the Drobos.

Ian

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[quote=“bensonmcmoran, post:1, topic:2635”]
Do the Drobo units need to have all drive bays full of drives in order to maintain good (or what is good for Drobo) read and write speeds?

Am I overlooking anything?
Is this just expected behavior of a Drobo?

Sorry for the lengthy post however I felt I should include as much detail as possible as I have worked on this issue for the past couple months and I am ready to fix the problem or find another product.

Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
[/quote]I have had similar results. Speed is disappointing at best.

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[/quote]I have had similar results. Speed is disappointing at best.
[/quote]

I understand Drobo units are slower than other similar devices but when they drop to speeds as low as I was seeing then it’s just plain unacceptable.

Thanks to Ian suggesting Synology I have since bought a Synology DS1511, been using it for a couple months now and love it.

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[quote=“bensonmcmoran, post:1, topic:2635”]
So I purchased a bare DroboPro FS and 4 3TB Western Digital hard drives.
The first thing I did was download the latest Drobo Dashboard ( version 1.1.1 ) from the website, after installing I proceeded to hook up the DroboPro FS to my network.
Using the Drobo Dashboard I updated to the most recent firmware before even inserting any of the hard drives.
I installed the hard drives and finished configuring the DroboPro FS through the Dashboard, so I am now all set up.

Here is where the problems occur…
I start copying folders over to the DroboPro FS, at first I was getting write speeds of 32-33 MB/s and read speeds of 57-58 MB/s .
After I finish copying a few folders ( checking read & write speeds after copying each folder) I end up with a total of about 10 GB loaded onto the DroboPro FS and my read speeds drop down to about 20 MB/s.
If I keep loading the DroboPro FS with data, say a total of 3 TB my read and write speeds drop down to about 4 MB/s.

This is my network setup.
DroboPro FS attached to a 10/100/1000 D-Link switch which is attached to a 10/100/1000 D-Link router and the computer used for testing is attached to the router, all using cat 6 cable.
I’ve ruled out the possibility that my network could be at fault by directly attaching the DroboPro FS to the computer using a different cat 6 cable, also tried a cat 5 cable just to be sure the cables were not at fault.

With the DroboPro FS directly attached to the computer I may have gained between 2-4MB/s…this brings me to a total of about 6-8MB/s transfer rate.
The computer initially used for testing is running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit operating system.
I tried resetting the TCP/IP networking stack since that had helped some users but it didn’t seem to make a difference.
So to rule out the computer as the problem I tested on another Windows 7 computer and got the same results.
To rule out the operating system I tested the DroboPro FS directly attached to an iMac, still same results yet!

The only suspects left to blame is the DroboPro FS it’s self or the hard drives…
I tested each hard drive individually with the DroboPro FS and using Western Digital’s Diagnostic software with the drives installed in a computer.
I also disabled to idle timer on each drive to prevent the drives from auto idling.
To rule out the drives all together I tested 2 1TB 7200 RPM Seagate drives inside the DroboPro FS… same problem as before.
So what’s left to blame, the DroboPro FS.

After communicating with Drobo support and performing numerous read & write benchmarks along with submitting logs over a 2 month period Drobo support sends me a Drobo B800fs, the business edition of the 8 bay Drobo FS models.
Well the Drobo B800fs is showing the same results as the DroboPro FS and it does not have any firmware updates available for it at the time of writing.

So I am looking to you Drobo users for support.
If I am able to achieve write speeds of around 55 MB/s and read speeds of around 60 MB/s while the drives are empty should I not be able to achieve close to these speeds with data on the drives, even if it’s just a small amount of data?

Do the Drobo units need to have all drive bays full of drives in order to maintain good (or what is good for Drobo) read and write speeds?

Am I overlooking anything?
Is this just expected behavior of a Drobo?

Sorry for the lengthy post however I felt I should include as much detail as possible as I have worked on this issue for the past couple months and I am ready to fix the problem or find another product.

Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
[/quote]I have had similar results. Speed is disappointing at best.

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